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Hi, I note that "Main.PeterThoeny" is attributed with making lots of changes on my site. I keep being asked who this person is - I tell them to ignore it because the name is irrelevant to the content.

But such irrelevant attribution is annoying. It appears when mousing-over, on WebChanges, etc, and on all webs except the TWikiHelp ones.

Can we have the distributions files stamped with no name?

Best regards,


-- RichardEllery - 20 Nov 2004

Note in TWiki-4, files that used to be stamped "PeterThoeny" are now stamped "TWikiContributor", so this is a non-issue.


-- CrawfordCurrie - 14 Mar 2006

Note also what Richard Ellery wrote, "listing the authors in the signature part does not cause any issues."

-- PeterThoeny - 14 Mar 2006

Would you want the distributions files stamped with no name?
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5 MayFundora 19 Jun 2007  

1 MarcoSilva 04 Apr 2007 No reasons to take off name stamps, that would break one of the main goals of wiki's, that is to build up a community.
5 ChrisJFNicholls 14 Mar 2006 Just another of those every-so-slightly embarassing things you have to gloss over when you're presenting TWiki to your colleagues for the first time.
5 LynnwoodBrown 23 May 2005 To me this only part of a larger issue about what's included in distribution. The only way it makes sense to include name stamps on topics in distribution is if you include entire topic history and I think that's a HUGE waste of space. How about this: 1) get rid of all topic histories in distributions, 2) attribute all documentation to TWiki:Codev.TWikiContributors (or some other page on twiki.org) and 3) on that page refer folks to see history of whatever topic they're interested in for complete history of contributors. In summary, keep documented history of contributors on twiki.org but NOT in every distributed copy of twiki!
1 SteffenPoulsen 22 May 2005 There is no way to get around this, as I see it. Being able to track contributions in full detail is at the heart of TWiki - challenging to grasp at first, but unbelievably helpful, once it becomes second nature. You will see the same problem with topics stemming from AddOns, Plugins and other 3rdparty packages. So instead of trying to eliminate it, or anonymize it, the better way would be to emphasize and promote WikiCulture. What is important, though, is that as many as possible of these links point straight to TWiki.org - not to a non-existant or (intentionally) deleted local page.
5 ColasNahaboo 21 Nov 2004 My users were also puzzled by this. They though somebody external had access to our intranet and that the tool was thus not secure. The doc pages should not be signed, or in a non-visible way (html comment or CSS display none), or by TWikiContributors.
1 PeterThoeny 21 Nov 2004 It is not just Peter's name, there is Mike and many other ones. Crediting tech writers is important, as important as crediting the TWikiContributors. I do not see anything wrong with the authors listed in the signature part (out of the way)
  RichardEllery   Peter, I fully recognise the need to credit the TWikiContributors and listing the authors in the signature part does not cause any issues. However, having the authors appearing in topics' metadata (as displayed in mouse-over events and at the top of WebChanges) is confusing.
4 SvenDowideit 21 Nov 2004 why not set an install date, before which topics do not show up in the changes list. this would default to the date on the Distro, but could be used for customisations too.
2 KennethPorter 20 Nov 2004 I think this is the wrong solution. Better is to put a bound on the change list so that only site changes are listed.
5 ToniPrug 20 Nov 2004 i was also asked this several times, it confuses users. neutral name would be an improvement. perhaps just TWikiGuest, since user already exists and is neutral.
5 RichardEllery 20 Nov 2004  
4 RafaelAlvarez 20 Nov 2004  
4 MartinCleaver 20 Nov 2004 I too have been asked this. Perhaps TWikiAdministrator would be a better name for files in the distro.
2 CrawfordCurrie 21 Nov 2004 I agree with KennethPorter, this is the wrong solution. On the issue of having signed documentation, this is really wierd and unusual. Can anyone show me another tool where installed documentation has individuals signatures? Much better to focus on TWikiContributors, and link that from the documentation, I would think.
  MartinCleaver 21 Nov 2004 Well, it is certainly true that most companies do not put the names of their staff on every page of the help. And in contrast, the TWiki.TWikiContributors page is a poor record of how people have contributed. I am firmly behind RichardEllery's point about the MetaData on WebHome and WebChanges pages.

-- MartinCleaver - 20 Nov 2004

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