Please Stop editing topics for CategoryStale and DeleteMe

Please discontinue editing topics just with CategoryStale and DeleteMe markers because this is spamming the WebChanges and the WebRss feeds. Please use tags "stale_content" and "delete_me" instead. Thanks!

Reports on:

• Tag:stale_content
• Tag:delete_me

The delete_me report can be used to trash content after review.

-- Contributors: PeterThoeny

Discussion

That is a complete PITA. It's bad enough editing the topics and pasting in a couple of lines, but having to select a drop down twice and wait for it to save is far more that I am prepared to do.

Note that the wikibadges are just a side-effect. What I was actually doing was assigning a TopicClassification to those topics. See SelectOne for a list of topics with a form, but no TopicClassification.

I have saved every topic with "quietsave" and "don't notify", so it is not spamming Changes (this is another argument in favour of using the changes script rather than Search for finding changes)

-- CrawfordCurrie - 09 Mar 2006

Thanks for helping clean up Codev. Assigning the TopicClassification certainly helps.

I have not seen any tagging action by Crawford. Possibly just give it a try? And review the background and itching factor on tagging in TagMePluginDev?

Just a suggestion in case you do not wish to join the tagging activity [1] currently done by the TWikiCommunity: How about creating one topic that lists all "delete me" items? That list can be reviewed, commented, and then topics deleted. For example most TestCaseTopic-someting would be listed there and can be easily deleted on the shell once confirmed.

• [1] To date over 700 tags applied on TWiki.org

-- PeterThoeny - 09 Mar 2006

How odd. This topic has no tags.

-- MeredithLesly - 09 Mar 2006

How odd, I see them now

-- PeterThoeny - 09 Mar 2006

Read what I wrote. What I was actually doing was assigning a TopicClassification to those topics. See SelectOne for a list of topics with a form, but no TopicClassification. This was in support of ScriptToReorganiseCodev. But if I can't even do something as simple as fix the classification of topics without getting flamed, then it's pointless and I'll leave you to have fun with your tags.

-- CrawfordCurrie - 10 Mar 2006

My appologies to have offended you, this was certainly not the intent.

Take two: Thanks for helping clean up Codev. Assigning the TopicClassification certainly helps.

-- PeterThoeny - 10 Mar 2006

stupid me tried to tage 30 odd topics as cruft, and proptly got blacklisted. I'm not likely to try again, as BlacklistPlugin? 's simply too rude.

-- SvenDowideit - 10 Mar 2006

I am sorry, but the logs tell a different story. IP address 203.217.75.207 tagged exactly 2 topics over a two day period. The same IP address was viewing 30-40 topics per minute over a 6 minutes time period before it got dutifully bumped to the list by the BlackListPlugin. May be your browser was prefetching pages? In any case, TWikiCommunity members are invited to get on the whitelist (thanks Arthur for adding 203.217.75.207 to the list.)

-- PeterThoeny - 10 Mar 2006

no, i'm not prefetching. I use tabs heavily, and tend to avoid broken web sites.

-- SvenDowideit - 10 Mar 2006

I also use tabs heavily when TWiki developing. My first action is to preload a web page with a number of TWiki topics. It never occurred to me that this might get me blacklisted. I guess I'm luckky I only put 7 or 8 topic in tabs to start with.

-- MeredithLesly - 10 Mar 2006

I do not see any productive content here. DeleteMe after a few days.

-- PeterThoeny - 10 Mar 2006

Perhaps it doesn't belong here (where?) but isn't Sven's experience relevant? He apparently got blacklisted because he was revving up to do TWiki work. This isn't a good thing.

-- MeredithLesly - 10 Mar 2006

The BlacklistPlugin? is a tool that can be tuned.

Maybe just increase the threshold a little bit.

As long as you do not edit many pages or view raw text it takes quite an effort to get blacklisted from just viewing.

The Blacklisting is a good thing normally. It is continuously saving my band width from being consumed by fools that put a mirroring tool on the impossible task to copy my TWiki. These tools follow all links including printing, editing, all old versions, diff topics etc. And the suckers often let these tools work at full speed for 5-6 hours.

BlacklistPlugin? gently blacklists these people and delay further error messages so that they do not consume bandwidth. On an ADSL line this is essential. And I am sure on TWiki.org as well.

But as always - when you put measures in place to stop the bad guys it always create some inconvenience for the good guys.

I have actually thought about letting a cron job clean the banlist every 8 hours because the bad guys come back with new IP addresses each time anyway. IP address banning does not prevent spam.

But the point system stops email harvesters and fools that want to copy twiki.org to the local disk so it has a good purpose. But Peter you should add more people to the list of people that can access the plugins "remove IP address from banlist" feature. It took quite a long time before anyone came by that could help Sven. And whitelists only work for those with fixed IP.

-- KennethLavrsen - 10 Mar 2006

This topic will be deleted in a few days. Please carry over relevant discussion to BlacklistPluginDev? .

-- PeterThoeny - 12 Mar 2006

Still not deleted.

-- FranzJosefGigler - 31 Mar 2008