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Problem:

Currently press references on the web in the TWiki:Main/TWikiAnnouncements topic about TWiki are stored in a list. This does not allow sorting and dates are not kept for each article. Also a submission form should be used to capture all the necessary data for new submissions by users.

Solution:

Refactoring the page. However this won't happen overnight and the design must be solid before any changes are made. Workflow for new submissions must be approved.

Result:

A more up to date list for everyone's benefit and users can help maintain the list by submitting links they find.

-- GrantBow - 15 Jan 2003

Anouncements is IMHO exactly kind of pages which should go to Main zone wink (=web) after users are moved to User zone. Possibly with form, to be able to classify and search easily.

-- PeterMasiar - 16 Jan 2003

Umm, so what should we do now that Beijing is out the door: wait for a better TWiki:Main/TWikiAnnouncements structure before posting notices around the net? or post away and restructure after the fact?

I've already posted to http://cmsinfo.org/ (a moderated site so it will be a day or so before it's published) and was about to update http://freshmeat.net/projects/twiki/ when I found this topic. So I'm holding off on any further news passing for the moment.

-- MattWilkie - 03 Feb 2003

Please wait for a few days, I am currently working on a press release. If all goes well we will get a testimonial by a major company which we can include in the press release.

And yes, the annoucement will be refactored so that we can spread the word in a unified way smile

-- PeterThoeny - 04 Feb 2003

Refactoring is on the way. We have now two main entry points:

I like Grant's idea to organize the TWiki news so that we can sort and filter the content. How about a similar approach to the TWikiInstallations directory? What we could capture, with example:

Date Link Source Cool
factor
Language Comment
2003/01/15 Wiki und WCMS: Ein Vergleich Freie Universitšt Berlin smile German TWiki mentioned among other Wikis

This table could be maintained by the EditTablePlugin or with a SEARCH based on individual topics. Opinions?

-- PeterThoeny - 23 Feb 2003

Can I help with some of the refactoring work?

smile

-- GrantBow - 24 Feb 2003

Yes, please! First, lets decide, which approach is better?

Use EditTablePlugin SEARCH Based on Individual Topics Use NewsPlugin
smile Simple indifferent More setup work wink Simple
smile All in one topic indifferent Many topics smile All in one topic
frown Not scalable (Plugin is slow for > 100 entries) smile Scalable smile More scalable (including the topic is fast)
smile Quick action (no preview) frown Edit/Preview/Save cycle frown Edit/Preview/Save cycle
frown No filtering possible smile Good filtering (like in TWikiInstallations) frown No filtering, but one can include many of them
others? others? others?
     
Vote count: Vote count: Vote count:
2 4 1

Let's vote. Increase above vote count by one. Once decided it's just mechanical work to implement it.

-- PeterThoeny - 26 Feb 2003

I put my vote in for the single-topic approach simply because the other approach seems like overkill. Currently, there are 4 or 5 articles listed in TWikiInTheNews. Using the EditTablePlugin approach would easily accommodate 10x that number and sorting would be adequate to select a sub-set someone might want to focus on. If someone wanted to provde a more indepth review of an article (which I imagine would be rare), that could link a separate topic off the listing in the table.

-- LynnwoodBrown - 02 Mar 2003

I support Lynnwood's reasoning. And anyway, TWiki's search is not that scalable either...

-- PeterKlausner - 08 May 2003

I would add a 3rd way, which brings power of use in an efficient way: put a special tag in a news announcement (or a webform item), that - via a plugin - would generate the sortable table of announcements at save time (a kind of compilation) in a separate topic, that could be INCLUDEd in other topics. No runtine (view) overhead.

Actually, there is a 4th way: Just use the NewsPlugin plugin. We use it a lot here at work, projects pages have thus boxes in a right column with news (project news + division news + company news...). See sample of use at http://koala.ilog.fr/wiki/bin/view/Koala/WebHome The "Koala News" box being "compiled" on save of the topic http://koala.ilog.fr/wiki/bin/view/Koala/NewsAll

-- ColasNahaboo - 09 May 2003

I just voted for a search. I'm getting back into the swing of things. smile

I was looking for a place to put this URL. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/19/technology/19NECO.html Since it requires registration and may go away sometime, having it's own topic would be a benefit to use under the Copyright provisions for educational and personal use, I think. We do similar copying and pasting for the BrainStorms community that Howard Rheingold hosts. There are lots of writers on there, so it seems this is a kosher way to share content.

-- GrantBow - 20 May 2003

Added column for NewsPlugin

-- ColasNahaboo - 27 Oct 2003

Which could be the TWikiNewsPortal

-- PeterThoeny - 27 Oct 2003

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