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Thanks to Joachim I now understand that there is a difference between Topic Parents (which are meta data and commonly displayed at the bottom of the page) and the minimal navigation at the top of each page commonly displayed as TWIKITOOLNAME . WEBNAME . TOPICNAME. I've started even diving into the twiki CVS and have found my way to the /templates/twiki.tmpl file that defines the default headers in the %TMPL:DEF{"standardheader"}% and %TMPL:DEF{"simpleheader"}%.

So why am I still bothering you, Joachim? Here's why...

From a user perspective they seem like they are extensions of one another. There are two locations with similar but not identical data about navigating between topics, one at the top of the page and one at the bottom.

Of course every topic is contained in a web. This is a technically and administratively imposed distinction forced onto users by TWiki. I don't want to imply any judgements about this (my apologies if some seeps through), just to state a fact. Every topic also has a Wiki style name. The thing that makes this begin to get difficult seems to be mostly about the navigation real estate at the top of the page. If the toolname . webname . {insert all parents} . topicname format were used, there is little way to allow for a consistent page layout. Yet this layout seems more user friendly and helpful in navigating to me.

Now I realize that this idealized and seamless hierarichal perception assumes that the meta data of Parents is always intentional and always valid. For some TWiki webs this may not be true in my experience.

I also need to study a couple of different topics. I need to understand the semantics of the parental data contained in the meta data. I also need to more clearly understand the current common practice of how this data is created and manipulated by current production versions of TWiki. I see different uses and different displays of this data. It varies from skin to skin as well I think. My using both the GNU skin sometimes on http://hurd.gnufans.org as well as the "Default" skin on http://twiki.org sometimes makes me confused. I think only by understanding the code underneath will I ever straighten out any misunderstandings I might have.


-- GrantBow - 10 Jan 2003

Topic revision: r1 - 2003-01-10 - GrantBow
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