so I don't get it, is twiki free or not? if i have to pay for it does that mean I get free support? er, paid support xdaxdb: twiki is releqased under the general public license if you have the skills you can download and install twiki on your server there are also consultants that can help you out installing, maintaining twiki http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiConsultants PeterThoeny: So there is no commercial licensing? I've heard people say that the foswiki fork happened because twiki became a commercial product. But it seems to me that twiki has the same licensing arangements. So i'm a little confused. i'm actually looking for a commercial product, my boss doesn't like opensource solutions but sharepoint is junk as doesn't do what I need it to foswiki tends to spreadi false rumors, they seem to have a grudge against the open source twiki project twiki consultants can support you, many are listed at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiConsultants i offer support contracts that include maintenance and upgrade - if intersted send me an e-mail to peter09[at]thoeny.org Thanks