Date: March 1, 2010 11:24:08 AM PST Subject: HelsinkiMeetingLog2010x03x01.txt [10:01am]  SopanShewale joined the chat room. [10:03am] peterthoeny:hi sopan [10:05am] peterthoeny:i can't figure out why i get kicked out as operator on this channel [10:05am] peterthoeny:so i can't set the topic [10:06am] peterthoeny:anyway, here we go: [10:06am] peterthoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/HelsinkiReleaseMeeting2010x03x01 [10:06am] SopanShewale:Hi Peter [10:06am] SopanShewale:good morning [10:07am] peterthoeny:we have a GreatfulFrog user asking a support question [10:07am] peterthoeny:i will remove the account and send a friendly reminder to use real name [10:07am] peterthoeny:i like the name though [10:07am] SopanShewale:where - on twitter? or support web? [10:08am] SopanShewale:sounds good (funny) name [10:09am] peterthoeny:on twiki.org [10:09am] peterthoeny:asked in support web [10:10am] SopanShewale:rss feed generation fails - question [10:10am] peterthoeny:time check: +10 min [10:10am] peterthoeny:shall we start? [10:13am] SopanShewale:yes. [10:13am] peterthoeny:only two today [10:14am] peterthoeny:we can make it short [10:14am] SopanShewale:yes [10:14am] peterthoeny:proposed agenda: [10:14am] peterthoeny:# 1. Feature requests for Helsinki Release [10:14am] peterthoeny:# 2. Review Urgent Bugs [10:14am] peterthoeny:# 3. Miscellaneous [10:14am] peterthoeny:---++ 1. Feature requests for Helsinki Release [10:14am] peterthoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiFeatureProposals [10:15am] SopanShewale:Peter is not joining today? [10:15am] peterthoeny:don't know [10:15am] peterthoeny:i added this proposal: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/EncodeVariableWithTypeModerate [10:16am] peterthoeny:over the weekend i released the commentplugin work that you did (last nov?) [10:16am] SopanShewale:ah.. ok.. [10:16am] peterthoeny:that was to fix http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6276 [10:17am] SopanShewale:i saw a few checkins from you [10:17am] peterthoeny:"cannot specify percentBRpercent for newline value" [10:17am] peterthoeny:i think we need a different fix [10:17am]  PeterJones joined the chat room. [10:17am] SopanShewale:yes [10:17am] peterthoeny:hi PeterJones [10:17am] SopanShewale:Ah.. welcome PeterJ [10:17am] PeterJones:Evening all [10:17am] peterthoeny:we are at feature proposals [10:17am] PeterJones:Sorry Im late [10:17am] peterthoeny:currently at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/EncodeVariableWithTypeModerate [10:17am] peterthoeny:np [10:17am] peterthoeny:thanks for joining [10:18am] peterthoeny:adding a type="moderate" allows one to add %ANYVARIABLE%, and also %WITHPARAM{fobar}% [10:18am] peterthoeny:into a commentbox [10:19am] peterthoeny:later i realized that the bug report was about %BR% in newline parameter, not comment box text [10:19am] peterthoeny:so that needs a different enhancement [10:19am] peterthoeny:in the commentplugin [10:20am] peterthoeny:i have an idea: allow special tokens in newline="" parameter: $br for
, and $n for newline [10:20am] peterthoeny:i will fix the plugin accordingly [10:21am] SopanShewale:this is work in CommentPlugin [10:21am] peterthoeny:any feedback on these features and fix? [10:21am] peterthoeny:the newline="" fix, yes [10:21am] SopanShewale:need to check your checkins.. i yet to find time to check that [10:21am] peterthoeny:the type="moderate" is in core for urlparam and encode [10:22am] peterthoeny:my commentplugin checkin was purely doc, and release [10:22am] SopanShewale:sounds good feature... [10:22am] peterthoeny:next one: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/RollbackAttachmentVersion [10:23am] peterthoeny:"Go back to a previous version of an attachment " [10:23am] peterthoeny:this is useful feature [10:23am] SopanShewale:yup [10:23am] peterthoeny:PeterJones: could you please add some docs and the user interaction? [10:24am] PeterJones:Yes I should do that, I havent had the opportunity [10:25am] PeterJones:I also need to think of the righht approach. Any ideas? [10:26am] peterthoeny:let me check on a page with an attachment... [10:27am] SopanShewale:btw - we still have %ATTACHURL% going through pub [10:28am] SopanShewale:we should change that to use "viewfile" [10:28am] peterthoeny:in the "manage" screen of an attachment, there is a table with all prior revisions [10:28am] peterthoeny:heading: Version  Action  Date  Who  Comment [10:29am] peterthoeny:the "action" column has a "view" link [10:29am] peterthoeny:i think a logical way is to add a "restore" link to that column next to view [10:29am] peterthoeny:as in:  | view, restore | [10:30am] PeterJones:JUst looking at this [10:30am] SopanShewale:btw - we have also spent some time on delete attachment/Trash web... i will submit that work as proposal soon [10:31am] peterthoeny:yes, fix issue where attachment with same name cannot be deleted more than once [10:31am] SopanShewale:so we can also have "Delete" column in the above table [10:31am] SopanShewale:and "x" - icon in the attachment row... [10:32am] peterthoeny:no, we can't delete previous revision [10:32am] peterthoeny:only whole attachment with all revisions [10:32am] SopanShewale:i am writting this because of - above table... so we need to come up with right table - which has delete stuff and restore prev versions [10:32am] PeterJones:In Manage there is now a delete or move option and restore could go there [10:32am] SopanShewale:ah.. ok [10:33am] peterthoeny:we already have a "delete" link for the whole attachment [10:35am] peterthoeny:PeterJones: if we add "restore" next to "delete" and "move" it just indicates the attachment, not what version to restore [10:35am] SopanShewale:we have - I  Attachment  Action  Size  Date  Who  Comment [10:35am] SopanShewale:no delete [10:35am] peterthoeny:sopan, click on "manage" on an existing attachment [10:36am] SopanShewale:ok.. i am looking at "Attachment Table" at the bottom of the topic [10:36am] peterthoeny:to the right of "update, cancel" you have "move or delete" [10:36am] PeterJones:The only Action is Manage [10:37am] SopanShewale:brb..2 mins [10:38am] peterthoeny:PeterJones: are on the "manage" screen of an existing attachment? [10:40am] PeterJones:In a topic there is the Attchments table with the columns that you listed. To restore we first click on Manageand then there would be an option to restore [10:40am] peterthoeny:look for example http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/attach/Sandbox/SandBox03?filename=like_image_map.gif;revInfo=1 [10:40am] peterthoeny:the like_image_map.gif file has two versions [10:41am] peterthoeny:see table "Version history of like_image_map.gif " [10:42am] peterthoeny:version 1 was done by WalterKiernan, version 2 by a guest [10:42am] PeterJones:Ok now I see, my screen is small and it didnt scroll down [10:42am] peterthoeny:version 1 has "view" in the action column [10:43am] peterthoeny:i think a logical way to restore from a previous version is to have "view, restore" in the action column [10:43am] peterthoeny:what do you think? [10:43am] PeterJones:Yes I agree Peter. [10:44am] peterthoeny:do you think that needs a confirm screen? [10:44am] SopanShewale:back... [10:44am] PeterJones:It should perhaps be constant with the restore of the topic version [10:45am] peterthoeny:e.g. "you are about to restore older version 1 to top, which will undo later attachments revisions. are you sure?" [10:45am] SopanShewale:i think there should be confirm screen [10:46am] SopanShewale:yes [10:46am] peterthoeny:i think also that it needs a confirm screen [10:46am] peterthoeny:PeterJones? [10:46am] PeterJones:Ok [10:47am] PeterJones:I will update the spec [10:49am] peterthoeny:ok, thanks [10:49am] peterthoeny:one more is listed as new proposal: SessionManagement [10:50am] SopanShewale:SessionManagement- stuck at me [10:50am] peterthoeny:sopan, can you close that? i think last time you said that this is no longer needed [10:50am] SopanShewale:yes.. i will close this Peter.. sorry for missing this [10:51am] peterthoeny:any other feature to discuss? [10:52am] peterthoeny:i will add a new feature proposal on patternskin with pulldown menues [10:52am] SopanShewale:ok [10:52am] peterthoeny:we discussed this a while back as a 5.0 feature [10:53am] peterthoeny:pulldown menues are now also needed at work, so company and community needs are aligned [10:53am] peterthoeny:---++ 2. Review Urgent Bugs [10:53am] peterthoeny:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/ReleaseBlocker [10:53am] peterthoeny:sopan? [10:54am] peterthoeny:we should start fix urgent bugs that affect/may delay 5.0 release [10:55am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6378 - need to review the code.. code is given by the bug raiser [10:55am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6378 - not sure if thats the urgent [10:55am] SopanShewale:i need to check that [10:55am] peterthoeny:"Issues with beforeSaveAttachment plugin dispatch" [10:56am] SopanShewale:http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6366 - - this is fixed.. [10:56am] SopanShewale:other bugs are not relevant in current situation [10:57am] peterthoeny:ok [10:57am] peterthoeny:any other bugs to review? [10:57am] peterthoeny:---++ 3. Miscellaneous [10:57am] peterthoeny:we will soon release a new openid 2.0 integration [10:58am] SopanShewale:nope.. no other bugs for the discussion from my side [10:58am] peterthoeny:ian kluft has been working day and night to get this working [10:58am] peterthoeny:it is already deployed at a client site [10:58am] SopanShewale:Ian Kluft is doing great work [10:58am] PeterJones:Can you send a link for the openid 2.0 [10:58am] peterthoeny:yes, good work [10:58am] peterthoeny:currently it is in svn [10:59am] peterthoeny:but not yet packed on twiki.org [10:59am] peterthoeny:one small piece is missing: user management [10:59am] peterthoeny:once done he will post package in plugins web on twiki.org [11:00am] peterthoeny:now already available in svn at http://svn.twiki.org/svn/twiki/trunk/OpenIdRpContrib/ [11:00am] PeterJones:Thanks I will take a look [11:01am] PeterJones:I have to go , see you next time [11:01am] peterthoeny:ok, i think we are done w meeting [11:01am] peterthoeny:thanks pete and sopan! [11:01am] PeterJones:bye [11:02am]  PeterJones left the chat room. (Quit: Java user signed off) [11:02am] peterthoeny:i'll post the log and minutes [11:02am]  SopanShewale left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:08am]  SopanShewale joined the chat room. [11:09am]  SopanShewale left the chat room.