Date: August 15, 2011 Subject: JerusalemMeetingLog2011x08x15.txt [10:03am]PeterThoeny:good morning george [10:03am]GeorgeTrubisky:good morning peter [10:04am]PeterThoeny:let me grab a cup of tea, may be some more folks will join [10:06am]GeorgeTrubisky:ok [10:07am]PeterThoeny:...back [10:07am]PeterThoeny:how was your b'day party? [10:08am]PeterThoeny:we had a party with japanese friends on sat [10:09am]PeterThoeny:a family came visiting us, they lived many years in the silicon valley and are now in japan for 6 years [10:09am]PeterThoeny:my daughter knows their daughter since kindergarden [10:09am]GeorgeTrubisky:we all met in downtown Pleasanton at a pizza place, was just extended family [10:10am]PeterThoeny:a, i think i know that place, on main street? [10:10am]PeterThoeny:downtown pleasanton is nice [10:10am]GeorgeTrubisky:gay 90's....very old building [10:10am]GeorgeTrubisky:off main [10:11am]GeorgeTrubisky:yes [10:12am]PeterThoeny:time check: +12 min [10:12am]PeterThoeny:let's start [10:12am]GeorgeTrubisky:if no one else joins, suggest a brief meeting.  I'd love to get back part of this hour.  Very busy at Safeway at the moment [10:12am]GeorgeTrubisky:I've committed to work on the 5.1 release again Tuesday starting at 7:30pm [10:12am]PeterThoeny:understood, let's make it short [10:12am]PeterThoeny:http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/JerusalemReleaseMeeting2011x08x15 [10:13am]PeterThoeny:1. TWiki-5.1 Release Coordination [10:13am]PeterThoeny:2. Release Focus of Jerusalem Release [10:13am]PeterThoeny:3. Feature Requests for Jerusalem Release [10:13am]PeterThoeny:4. Miscellaneous [10:13am]PeterThoeny:let's mainly focus on 1 and 2 [10:13am]GeorgeTrubisky:ok [10:13am]PeterThoeny:---++ 1. TWiki-5.1 Release Coordination [10:14am]PeterThoeny:on build issue, one thing to check: enough disk space on /tmp ? [10:14am]GeorgeTrubisky:so I'm guessing the missing history is environment specific (for me) [10:14am]GeorgeTrubisky:I'll check [10:14am]PeterThoeny:the build script does complete checkout of prev version [10:14am]PeterThoeny:in /t,p [10:14am]PeterThoeny:in /tmp [10:14am]GeorgeTrubisky:shouldn't be a issue for space in /tmp, but I'll check [10:15am]GeorgeTrubisky:again, I got to believe its environment specific, so I'll work on that [10:15am]PeterThoeny:something must have changed between 5.1.0-rc1 and 5.0 [10:15am]GeorgeTrubisky:I'm more concerned about why the backup plugin was missing [10:15am]PeterThoeny:the build script looks for the latest tag to get the topic history of the previous release [10:16am]GeorgeTrubisky:it come up in the configure settings for plugin's [10:16am]PeterThoeny:yes, that is strange too [10:16am]PeterThoeny:and it is listed in the manifest [10:16am]GeorgeTrubisky:yes, I know about the build tag [10:17am]GeorgeTrubisky:the backup plug in is run just from the command line, correct? [10:17am]PeterThoeny:well, it lib/TWiki.spec has: [10:17am]PeterThoeny:$TWiki::cfg{Plugins}{BackupRestorePlugin}{Enabled} = 1; [10:17am]PeterThoeny:in your build [10:17am]PeterThoeny:did you do a pseudo-install of default extensions? [10:17am]GeorgeTrubisky:yes [10:18am]PeterThoeny:and before that an svn up on whole trunk? [10:18am]GeorgeTrubisky:yes [10:18am]PeterThoeny:very strange [10:18am]PeterThoeny:it should pick it up [10:18am]PeterThoeny:may be file permissions? [10:18am]GeorgeTrubisky:was it part of the rc1 release [10:19am]GeorgeTrubisky:? [10:19am]GeorgeTrubisky:don't remember [10:19am]PeterThoeny:check the ownership if your local trunk checkout, especially the dir of the backuprestoreplugin [10:19am]GeorgeTrubisky:ok [10:20am]GeorgeTrubisky:when I reran the build.pl, I ran as root [10:20am]PeterThoeny:i had once an issue when i did an svn up as root instead of the usual user [10:20am]GeorgeTrubisky:didn't svn up as root [10:20am]PeterThoeny:as long as you always use the same user (root or other) for all svn and build you should be ok [10:21am]GeorgeTrubisky:yeah.  I have a test user (www-test), I use...same group as www-data [10:21am]PeterThoeny:other than that i have no more suggestions [10:21am]GeorgeTrubisky:ok, again, I'll look at my environment [10:22am]PeterThoeny:also, strangely the two disabled plugins do not show up in the plugin diagnostics list [10:22am]PeterThoeny:see http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/InstalledPlugins#Plugin_Diagnostics [10:23am]PeterThoeny:EmptyPlugin and RenderListPlugin are shown on develop twiki, as they should [10:23am]PeterThoeny:on my local 5.1.0 test install they do not show up [10:24am]PeterThoeny:hold on, i take that back [10:24am]PeterThoeny:develop.twiki.org might have different setup [10:25am]PeterThoeny:time check: +25 min [10:25am]PeterThoeny:build now planned for tue? [10:25am]PeterThoeny:what time? [10:25am]GeorgeTrubisky:yes [10:26am]GeorgeTrubisky:I'll start at 7:30.  You don't need to be on until an hour later [10:26am]GeorgeTrubisky:8:30 [10:27am]PeterThoeny:(just checked, develop.twiki.org has both plugins enabled in LocalSite.cfg, so we are ok on those two plugins [10:28am]PeterThoeny:ok, so after my dinner [10:28am]GeorgeTrubisky: [10:28am]GeorgeTrubisky:what else.. [10:28am]PeterThoeny:just to make sure, pm, not am? [10:28am]GeorgeTrubisky:lol.  Yes, pm [10:28am]PeterThoeny: [10:29am]PeterThoeny:time check: +28 min [10:29am]PeterThoeny:if you are busy we can stop now [10:29am]GeorgeTrubisky:yes, that would be great [10:29am]PeterThoeny:and discuss release focus next time [10:29am]PeterThoeny:ok, let's do that [10:29am]PeterThoeny:nice chatting with you [10:29am]GeorgeTrubisky:ok.  Good to hear your meetings with the guy from Japan went well last week [10:29am]PeterThoeny:tty on tue evening [10:30am]PeterThoeny:yes, went well [10:30am]PeterThoeny:it looks like we will have lots of contributions from imazu-san [10:30am]PeterThoeny:and his team [10:30am]GeorgeTrubisky:tty\ [10:30am] GeorgeTrubisky left the chat room.