Date: August 16, 2012 9:56:43 PM PDT Subject: JerusalemMeetingLog2012x08x17.txt [8:58pm]  HideyoImazu joined the chat room. [9:00pm] PeterThoeny: hi hideyo-san [9:01pm] HideyoImazu: hi peter [9:02pm] PeterThoeny: what is new in tokyo? [9:03pm] HideyoImazu: it's extremely hot. [9:03pm] HideyoImazu: last summer was mild but this summer is brutal. [9:03pm] HideyoImazu: mmm [9:04pm] PeterThoeny: a swiss friend of mine is working in tokyo [9:04pm] PeterThoeny: he also said hot, and no nice blue sky, but kind of white [9:04pm] PeterThoeny: we have mild summer here in silicon valley [9:05pm] PeterThoeny: muh different from hong kong a few weeks back [9:05pm] HideyoImazu: i envy you. [9:05pm] PeterThoeny: you can move over here [9:06pm] PeterThoeny: twiki work can be done from anywhere [9:07pm] HideyoImazu: i need to convince my wife [9:07pm] PeterThoeny: there are some good japanese shops & restaurant here [9:08pm] PeterThoeny: and many japanese live here working for matsushita, sony, etc [9:09pm] PeterThoeny: time check: +9 min [9:09pm] PeterThoeny: shall we start [9:09pm] PeterThoeny: ? [9:09pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/JerusalemReleaseMeeting2012x08x17 [9:10pm] PeterThoeny: agenda: [9:10pm] PeterThoeny: 1. Feature Requests for Jerusalem Release [9:10pm] PeterThoeny: 2. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs [9:10pm] PeterThoeny: 3. TWiki Foundation Discussion [9:10pm] PeterThoeny: 4. Miscellaneous [9:10pm] PeterThoeny: ---++  1. Feature Requests for Jerusalem Release [9:10pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiFeatureProposals [9:11pm] PeterThoeny: we have a few to discuss [9:11pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/CgiEngineFastCgiCompatibility [9:12pm] PeterThoeny: i think last week we got consensus, so accepted by release meeting [9:12pm] PeterThoeny: are you there? [9:13pm] HideyoImazu: yes [9:13pm] HideyoImazu: ok [9:13pm] PeterThoeny: can you change the status? [9:13pm] HideyoImazu: sure [9:13pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/SupportUpdatefromtemplateInEditSaveScripts [9:14pm] PeterThoeny: proposal by JohnRouillard on 2012-08-09 [9:14pm] PeterThoeny: accepted by 7 day feedback period [9:14pm] PeterThoeny: let me update the page [9:16pm] PeterThoeny: done [9:16pm] PeterThoeny: next: [9:16pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/RetrofittingWebNameInViewfile [9:16pm] HideyoImazu: I've just updated CgiEngineFastCgiCompatibility [9:16pm] PeterThoeny: Feature Proposal: Retrofitting $session->{webName} in UI::View::viewfile() [9:16pm] PeterThoeny: no-brainer [9:17pm] PeterThoeny: can you update the status? [9:17pm] HideyoImazu: ok [9:17pm] PeterThoeny: next: [9:17pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TildeLoginname [9:17pm] PeterThoeny: Feature Proposal: /cgi-bin/view/~jsmith to be redirected to /cgi-bin/view/Main/JaneSmith [9:18pm] PeterThoeny: since you proposed the feature and i agree we can set the status to "accepted by release meeting" [9:18pm] PeterThoeny: can you change? [9:19pm] HideyoImazu: sure [9:19pm] PeterThoeny: that is all i have on feature proposals [9:19pm] PeterThoeny: anything else on core code? [9:21pm]  HideyoImazu_ joined the chat room. [9:21pm] HideyoImazu_: webchat.freenode.net stopped responding. so I've reconnected. [9:22pm] HideyoImazu_: no other core feature proposals [9:22pm] PeterThoeny: ok [9:23pm] PeterThoeny: next to extensions [9:23pm] PeterThoeny: a have a few items [9:23pm]  HideyoImazu left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [9:23pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/PercentCompletePlugin [9:23pm] PeterThoeny: new plugin, first version now finished [9:23pm] PeterThoeny: please use for your twiki apps if you like [9:24pm] PeterThoeny: any feedback on enhancements? [9:24pm] PeterThoeny: my goal was to make it visual and easy to change [9:24pm] HideyoImazu_: looks cool [9:24pm] PeterThoeny: just clicking on the bar changes the value [9:24pm] HideyoImazu_: how the data is stored? [9:25pm] PeterThoeny: as regular twiki form field data [9:25pm] HideyoImazu_: that's nice. [9:26pm] PeterThoeny: example meta data: [9:26pm] PeterThoeny: %META:FIELD{name="Progress" attributes="" title="Progress" value="40"}% [9:27pm] PeterThoeny: related to this, i updated the core docs: [9:27pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/TWikiForms#Form_Field_Types [9:28pm] PeterThoeny: now we have a "form field types" section with a table that lists all types that are available [9:29pm] PeterThoeny: this is done dynamically for plugins, e.g. when you install a new plugin that dds a new type it will show up automagically in the table [9:29pm] HideyoImazu_: is that through a new kind of *Handler() function? [9:30pm] PeterThoeny: no, simply a query in the plugin pages for a table of a certain format [9:31pm] PeterThoeny: all extensions that define a form field type have been updated accordingly [9:31pm] PeterThoeny: also related to this, i created a new topic in the Plugins web on twiki.org to list all extensions that define a new twiki form field type [9:31pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/TWikiFormFieldExtensions [9:31pm] PeterThoeny: that table is also a dynamic report [9:31pm] HideyoImazu_: understood. [9:33pm] PeterThoeny: next: [9:33pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/EmacsModeAddOn [9:34pm] PeterThoeny: this is a new extension by new contributor ChristopherWhite [9:34pm] PeterThoeny: i suggested to him a year ago to package this [9:34pm] HideyoImazu_: i've been using Emacs almost 30 years. [9:35pm] PeterThoeny: he also created a twiki shell called twikish [9:35pm] PeterThoeny: as part of this add-on [9:35pm] PeterThoeny: this might be good to package as a separate add-on [9:35pm] PeterThoeny: i suggested that in the dev topic [9:36pm] PeterThoeny: i never really got used to vi and emacs [9:36pm] HideyoImazu_: what editor are you using on Unix? [9:36pm] PeterThoeny: i am using vi grudgingly [9:37pm] PeterThoeny: i find both editors the opposite of what i find intuitively [9:38pm] PeterThoeny: the one i find intuitively is not powerful enough: pico [9:38pm] HideyoImazu_: you can customize key binding on Emacs. [9:38pm] PeterThoeny: i like regex search, and regex search & replace [9:39pm] PeterThoeny: problem is, i work on various systems [9:39pm] PeterThoeny: it is not feasible to customize editors on all systems i use [9:39pm] PeterThoeny: so i am stuck with vi (or emacs) [9:40pm] PeterThoeny: next: [9:40pm] PeterThoeny: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/LdapContrib [9:40pm] HideyoImazu_: before I started using Emacs, I was using vi. [9:40pm] HideyoImazu_: so I can fall back to vi when needed. [9:41pm] PeterThoeny: small contribution by GoranJakovljevic for croatian chars [9:41pm] PeterThoeny: i updated the contrib [9:41pm] PeterThoeny: may be i should learn emacs [9:42pm] PeterThoeny: that is all i have on extensions [9:42pm] PeterThoeny: do you have anything? [9:43pm] HideyoImazu_: no [9:43pm] PeterThoeny: ---++  2. Review Urgent and Not So Urgent Bugs [9:43pm] PeterThoeny: i have none [9:43pm] HideyoImazu_: me either [9:44pm] PeterThoeny: may be just mention: [9:44pm] PeterThoeny: http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6835#r50 [9:44pm] PeterThoeny: a few new doc graphics (i needed for recent twiki app work) [9:45pm] PeterThoeny: and: [9:45pm] PeterThoeny: http://develop.twiki.org/~twiki4/cgi-bin/view/Bugs/Item6914 [9:45pm] PeterThoeny:  Item6914: Securing attachments: Use Alias/ScriptAlias instead of Apache rewrite rules [9:45pm] PeterThoeny: i learned something from WillemEngen: [9:45pm] PeterThoeny: no need to use rewrite rule to secure attachments [9:46pm] PeterThoeny: simply nest scriptalias in alias to get the effect of apache rewrite [9:47pm] PeterThoeny: ---++  3. TWiki Foundation Discussion [9:47pm] PeterThoeny: nothing on my side [9:47pm] HideyoImazu_: me either [9:47pm] PeterThoeny: i will drop this in next release meeting [9:48pm] PeterThoeny: we can revive when george is back [9:48pm] PeterThoeny: ---++  4. Miscellaneous [9:48pm] PeterThoeny: anything? [9:48pm] HideyoImazu_: no [9:50pm] PeterThoeny: ok, nothing from me neither [9:50pm] PeterThoeny: back to some consulting work for me then... [9:50pm] PeterThoeny: nice chatting with you [9:50pm] PeterThoeny: i'll post the logs [9:51pm] PeterThoeny: ttyl hideyo-san [9:51pm] HideyoImazu_: ttyl [9:51pm]  HideyoImazu_ left the chat room. (Quit: Page closed)