[12:26] *** Initial topic: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiMarketingMinutes2007x09x17 [12:26] *** #twiki_marketing: PeterThoeny SvenDowideit_ gmc [12:26] *** #twiki_marketing was created on Mon Sep 03 02:46:09 2007. [12:28] * gmc might be a bit late.. normally, i have a political meeting on mondays [12:29] PeterThoeny: have fun koen, and talk to you soon! [12:36] *** rodbeckstrom has joined #twiki_marketing. [12:38] rodbeckstrom: Sven, thanks for the suggestion on Colloquy, I'm using it now :) [12:49] *** SteffenPoulsen has joined #twiki_marketing. [12:58] *** Kobby has joined #twiki_marketing. [12:59] *** CDot has joined #twiki_marketing. [12:59] Kobby: Hi there, is there anyone on the conference call? (ie the phone) [12:59] rodbeckstrom: Hi Kobby and welcome! [12:59] rodbeckstrom: It's time to start :) [12:59] Kobby: Hi there Rod [12:59] *** ktwilight has joined #twiki_marketing. [12:59] ktwilight: 'lo [13:00] rodbeckstrom: Here is the agenda for this call: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiMarketingMinutes2007x09x17 [13:00] rodbeckstrom: Hi Steffen, Sven, ktwilight, Peter and gmc! [13:01] rodbeckstrom: Koen, you are first up on Blogging :) [13:01] PeterThoeny: hi crawford, koen, michael, kwang, rod, steffen, sven! [13:01] SteffenPoulsen: Hi all :-) [13:01] PeterThoeny: sven up already? [13:02] *** DavidAllen has joined #twiki_marketing. [13:02] * gmc just got in [13:02] *** ArthurClemens_ has joined #twiki_marketing. [13:02] gmc: barely made it.. [13:02] ktwilight: :) [13:03] PeterThoeny: hi dave and arthur [13:03] ArthurClemens_: hi [13:03] gmc: hi all [13:03] PeterThoeny: we have critical mass [13:03] *** Lavr has joined #twiki_marketing. [13:03] rodbeckstrom: Here is the agenda for this call: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiMarketingMinutes2007x09x17 [13:03] PeterThoeny: "critical mess?" [13:03] DavidAllen: i will be doing some lurking, but will be around... [13:03] gmc: explosion? [13:03] rodbeckstrom: r we ready to get rolling team? [13:03] gmc: let's go [13:03] rodbeckstrom: Koen, would you like to facilitate the meeting? [13:04] PeterThoeny: who is taking the minutes? [13:04] rodbeckstrom: you did a great job last time [13:04] rodbeckstrom: Peter, tag you're it [13:04] gmc: rodbeckstrom: ok, will do [13:04] PeterThoeny: ok, i'll log [13:04] gmc: soooo, time check +5 already :) [13:04] rodbeckstrom: thanks Koen, I assume you can see the minutes/agenda [13:04] gmc: yes, i have them loaded [13:05] Kobby: Re the minutes: please can we summarise at the end of each agenda item to make sure we've all understood and agree what we discussed? [13:05] gmc: fine by me [13:05] rodbeckstrom: ditto [13:05] PeterThoeny: ok [13:05] gmc: so are we all fine with the agenda? [13:06] rodbeckstrom: yes, let's roll :) [13:06] gmc: (trying to load last times minutes, seems t.o has a fit again :( [13:06] ktwilight: patience is virtue [13:06] gmc: anyway: [13:06] gmc: ---+ 1. Blogging [13:07] rodbeckstrom: I will contribute a piece, will get to it [13:07] gmc: I do not have much to add at this point. Using the announce mailing list for the newsletter seems like a good idea, and the idea is to have the first newsletter when the beta goes out [13:07] rodbeckstrom: good idea to link to the release [13:07] gmc: i plan to 'hunt' a bit more for stories, pushing people to publish something on hot topics [13:08] ArthurClemens_: one technical issue the blog posts do not get parented correctly because of an old CommentPlugin install [13:08] PeterThoeny: i think the newsletter can mention the beta, but there sould be a separate mail just announcing beta [13:08] rodbeckstrom: yes, yes and yes to previous three comments [13:08] gmc: PeterThoeny: ok, in that case maybe we can go for a newsletter earlier [13:08] gmc: i think there is enough content already for one, and if we wait too long, that content becomes too old [13:09] PeterThoeny: yes, and we can pre-announce beta release in the newsletter [13:09] gmc: yes.. [13:09] gmc: can we fix the comment plugin thing btw? [13:09] PeterThoeny: target date for nesletter? [13:09] gmc: do we have a new target date for the beta already? [13:09] PeterThoeny: i can update the commentplugin (a.i. for me) [13:10] gmc: if not, i propose to have it out this week [13:10] gmc: as for the format, i'm aiming for a simple text only format [13:10] gmc: (maybe using TML just for fun :) [13:10] PeterThoeny: yes, i use tml (just for headings and bullets) in release announces [13:11] gmc: exactly.. allright, so unless someone objects: newsletter this week, on wednesday [13:11] gmc: i probably need some way to post to the announce list btw, or have someone post for me [13:11] PeterThoeny: ok, decided, this wed [13:12] rodbeckstrom: good idea- great to get the message of Rome out to the world [13:12] gmc: rodbeckstrom: exactly [13:12] PeterThoeny: do we have a twiki topic to work on the nesletter? [13:12] gmc: PeterThoeny: i'll create one [13:12] PeterThoeny: (stuck "w" key) [13:12] rodbeckstrom: should we go to item #2- Home Page Redesign? [13:12] ArthurClemens_: that is on my plate [13:12] gmc: i'll contact peter/sven about posting to announce off-channel [13:13] gmc: ok [13:13] rodbeckstrom: how can we support you Arthur? [13:13] gmc: ---+ 2. Home Page Redesign [13:13] PeterThoeny: newsletter: we should also mention rome meeting [13:13] ArthurClemens_: buy me time :-) [13:13] gmc: (time check +13) [13:13] rodbeckstrom: :) [13:13] ArthurClemens_: I haven't found the time yet: work and kids to take care of [13:13] gmc: (PeterThoeny: it will be in there, newsletter will contain the blog posts) [13:13] ArthurClemens_: this week will be quieter [13:14] PeterThoeny: arhtur: please hold, lets finish newsletter [13:14] ArthurClemens_: ok [13:14] gmc: PeterThoeny: you want to add something to the newsletter? [13:14] PeterThoeny: koen: i do not think the newsletter should be blog posts verbatim [13:14] Kobby: I am not sure if the redesign should just be confined to the home page [13:14] Kobby: I think that we should consider starting a separate web for Marketing [13:14] gmc: PeterThoeny: i think that is fine.. most people on the announce list probably have not read them [13:15] PeterThoeny: better to have newsletter content with special content, which might inlcude some part of blog posts [13:15] Kobby: Codev is a very busy web but it is (and should be) mainly concerned with coding. [13:15] gmc: Kobby: we're back on item 1. Blogging [13:15] gmc: PeterThoeny: motivation? [13:15] Kobby: Ah sorry ! ! :( [13:15] gmc: Kobby: np, peter's fault :) [13:15] PeterThoeny: blog posts can be long, most people do not take the time to read a long newsletter [13:16] gmc: PeterThoeny: no, i didn't intend to include the entire blog posts.. [13:16] PeterThoeny: especially the first announce newsletter should not be long [13:16] gmc: PeterThoeny: ok, i'll do summaries.. usually, my blog posts have a summarizing first paragraph anyway [13:17] PeterThoeny: koen, it is up to, you own this item (just my thought) [13:17] gmc: i will put up a concept newsletter tomorrow, so we can shoot at it, ok? [13:17] rodbeckstrom: great [13:17] gmc: PeterThoeny: can we move on to 2? [13:17] PeterThoeny: how about a simple meetingminutes like app to keep track of newsletters? [13:18] gmc: to summarize: tomorrow a concept newsletter will be up, wednesday is the target date to have it sent out to announce, it will contain summarizing headings with links to the blogposts [13:18] PeterThoeny: ok, next :-) [13:18] gmc: PeterThoeny: i think details like those are better discussed outside this meeting, but good suggestion [13:18] gmc: 2. Homepage Redesign [13:18] PeterThoeny: (sorry for the diversion) [13:18] ArthurClemens_: np [13:18] ArthurClemens_: We agreed that the redesign is homepage + landing pages for the main audiences. [13:18] gmc: am i correct in stating that not much new can be said about the homepage redesign? [13:19] ArthurClemens_: so we/I will first focus to expand upon http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WebPageAudience [13:19] ArthurClemens_: correct: no news [13:19] ArthurClemens_: except for "how can we help" [13:19] rodbeckstrom: :) [13:19] ArthurClemens_: contribute to that page [13:20] ArthurClemens_: I will develop a set of personas first [13:20] gmc: yes, quite some empty spots in there :) [13:20] PeterThoeny: arthur, i just got a merge conflict [13:20] PeterThoeny: (i am taking the minutes) [13:20] ArthurClemens_: bad char? [13:21] gmc: arthur: the set of personas includes analysts, press, economic buyer, etc... ? or is this something different? [13:21] PeterThoeny: (seemed to have merged just fine, although there was a conflict message) [13:21] ArthurClemens_: it depends on their goals [13:21] ArthurClemens_: if goals overlap they will become one persona [13:22] PeterThoeny: yes, basing it on types of users, and mapping it to personas is the right approach [13:22] ArthurClemens_: goals = what this type of person wants to reach [13:22] rodbeckstrom: I propose the homepage be functional for community pros and inviting and helpful for new visitors [13:22] PeterThoeny: and we need to keep seo goal on homepage [13:23] gmc: PeterThoeny: not necesarily, you can do seo on landing pages [13:23] ArthurClemens_: the homepage does not need to be clean, just better organized :-) [13:23] rodbeckstrom: you're the pro Arthur [13:24] Kobby: Can we also talk about the reorganisation of the stuff behind the homepage? [13:24] gmc: Kobby: probably not in the context of this project [13:24] Kobby: As a new user to the site (a few months back now) I was very confused by the whole site (not just the homepage) [13:24] gmc: (time check +25) [13:24] Kobby: OK - I was just wanting to talk about the idea of a marketing web - could we discuss that at the end? [13:24] rodbeckstrom: we need to capture your fresh experience Kobby, the old pros around the table are jaded :) [13:25] gmc: Kobby: there is an initiative to clean out Codev [13:25] PeterThoeny: Kobby: you as a marketing person can give us good feedback on homepage redesign [13:25] ArthurClemens_: we will address new landing pages [13:26] PeterThoeny: shall we move to next item? [13:26] gmc: i do think kobby has a point.. right now, everything is thrown into Codev.. it becomes a big pile of wildly different items.. [13:26] Kobby: Having a marketing web may allow a greater focus to be placed on marketing [13:27] rodbeckstrom: good idea Kobby [13:27] gmc: Kobby: but that suggest you also have a Documentation web, a Coders web, etc.. or not? [13:27] gmc: PeterThoeny: let's spent 2 more minutes on this item [13:27] ktwilight: yup, good idea. [13:27] PeterThoeny: here is the current web use: twiki web: official end user docs and supplemental docs codev web: developer content plugins web: extension repository & doc support web: support [13:28] gmc: ok, so codev is used for more than what it was intended for atm.. [13:28] PeterThoeny: i prefer to keep the number of webs low [13:28] gmc: there's discussion about community meetings, discussions about marketing, etc.. [13:28] gmc: which is all not developer content per se [13:28] Kobby: Very true - but its all mixed in with everything else [13:28] Lavr: Funny how people always want a new web for every little tiny purpose. [13:28] gmc: :) [13:28] ArthurClemens_: a low number of webs does not mean the current set is optimal [13:29] gmc: ok, so maybe we need to think this over and schedule it for the next meeting? [13:29] Kobby: Yes, and I wouldn't call marketing a tiny little purpose ;) [13:29] ArthurClemens_: but stuff needs to get found and tracked [13:29] gmc: for the sake of getting through our current agenda [13:29] rodbeckstrom: I second Kobby's remark! [13:29] PeterThoeny: the twiki web has a nice mix, well organized: official docs, supplementa docs, historical docs [13:30] PeterThoeny: meaning you do not need to create a new web for every little thing, just organize content well and link well withing webs [13:30] gmc: ok, i think we spent our extra 2 minutes now.. agreed that we schedule this for the next meeting? [13:30] Kobby: OK [13:30] rodbeckstrom: yes [13:30] gmc: reorganising / structuring codev is already an item somewhere on some list [13:30] PeterThoeny: yes, lets move [13:30] PeterThoeny: to next item [13:30] gmc: so, sumamrizing: next meeting we'll talk about webs on t.o, home page redesign, everyone is oing to contribute on http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WebPageAudience [13:31] gmc: ---+ 3. Testimonials [13:31] rodbeckstrom: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/YouTubeDemoContest2007 [13:31] rodbeckstrom: please click on above, I have started to jot down some ideas and need feedback [13:31] PeterThoeny: koen: no, the work topic is TWikiOrgHomepageRedesign2007 [13:31] gmc: PeterThoeny: ok, but that does not exist yet doesn't it? Arthur mentioned WebPageAudience.. But it is now noted that it is TWikiOrgHomepageRedesign2007 [13:32] Kobby: Rod - that looks great! [13:32] rodbeckstrom: the idea of the contest is to get people to share their twiki stories [13:32] rodbeckstrom: there are so many success stories out there that people have no idea about [13:32] rodbeckstrom: so the thought is to have people create and post YouTube stories on how they use TWiki [13:32] gmc: (time check +33) [13:33] Lavr: I am still looking for a SW (free) that I can use to make such a video. [13:33] Kobby: Lavr - are you talking about screencasting software? [13:33] Lavr: Yes. I have not yet found an open source one that seems to work [13:33] gmc: Lavr: vnc2swf ? [13:33] rodbeckstrom: it should be pretty easy to load any digital video file into YouTube [13:34] gmc: anyway, i think that is an off-topic discussion [13:34] Kobby: Well chaired GMC! [13:34] rodbeckstrom: so my proposal is we have a contest to have people tell their TWiki stories [13:34] rodbeckstrom: and I propose that this group judge the submissions [13:35] gmc: meaning we should whip up some criteria to judge it by, for formalities sake [13:35] rodbeckstrom: which means anyone here who contributes videos would not be able to vote on their own work [13:35] rodbeckstrom: please see the page above [13:35] gmc: yep, you did mention it.. [13:35] gmc: the prize money sounds interesting too, that'll spark some motivation from contestants [13:35] ArthurClemens_: everyone should take note of http://basecamphq.com/customers/ [13:35] rodbeckstrom: that's the idea :) [13:36] rodbeckstrom: show me the money! [13:36] ArthurClemens_: their customers tell their stories [13:36] rodbeckstrom: as Cuban Gooding Jr. would say [13:36] rodbeckstrom: yes, that is what we want. TWiki users telling their stories [13:36] Kobby: Sounds great Rod - the only issue appears to be ensuring that the contest is launched with sufficient fanfare to ensure lots of entries [13:36] Kobby: How are we going to kick it off? [13:36] gmc: Kobby: hence the viral marketing.. [13:36] ArthurClemens_: that is not youtube style, but well lit, good sound [13:37] rodbeckstrom: Yes Kobby, hence the next notes on the page http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/YouTubeDemoContest2007 [13:37] gmc: we should all expand and contribute to the topic rod mentioned one line before [13:37] gmc: target timeline? [13:37] rodbeckstrom: my thoughts are we could announce on Twiki.org, to the announcement list possibl, and through our own viral email campaign [13:37] gmc: rod, you suggested october [13:37] gmc: rodbeckstrom: yes, distribute on all the various mailing lists we are on [13:37] rodbeckstrom: I was thinking October or November just because so many community members are busy getting the beta ready [13:38] rodbeckstrom: plus we need to get our own marketing plan together [13:38] rodbeckstrom: to make sure the contest gets good participation [13:38] gmc: true.. ok, so for time's sake let us voice the intention to work this out on http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/YouTubeDemoContest2007 [13:38] rodbeckstrom: fine with me [13:38] gmc: and come back to it in two weeks in our next meeting [13:38] rodbeckstrom: good [13:39] gmc: time check +40 [13:39] gmc: next point: [13:39] gmc: ---+ 4. TWiki.org performance [13:39] PeterThoeny: servers have been ordered at sun [13:39] PeterThoeny: not yet arrived on site [13:39] PeterThoeny: expect later this week [13:39] gmc: ok.. [13:40] gmc: so who is going to furnish these servers? the current server maintenance team? do they have time? [13:40] PeterThoeny: i have someone local who can help with the initial setup [13:41] PeterThoeny: but server and twiki maintenance need to be provided by community [13:41] gmc: is there a migration plan already? we should probably work that out on Codev.NewTWikiOrgServer2007 [13:42] PeterThoeny: i would like to get two new in the community to help out in sys admin [13:42] ktwilight: cool [13:42] ktwilight: i guess Sven needs to get his head around for this one? [13:42] Lavr: It would be nice if for once the TWiki gets installed exactly as described in the installation doc. [13:42] gmc: PeterThoeny: i can volunteer for that, with a little help from some of my employees [13:43] ktwilight: i've volunteered, but still waiting for some sort of a confirmation. [13:43] gmc: PeterThoeny: can you create NewTWikiOrgServer2007 and refactor all the stuff we already wrote about it elsewhere in Codev? [13:43] PeterThoeny: thanks for volunteering! i'd like to get one person in europe and one in the usa so that we have better time coverage [13:43] gmc: well both ktwilight and me are in europe [13:43] PeterThoeny: yes, i will create the topic [13:44] PeterThoeny: may be we can have more than 3 sys admins? [13:44] gmc: if we coordinate properly, that would be no problem [13:44] gmc: time check +45 [13:44] ktwilight: one in each major timezones is important [13:44] gmc: let us work out the details on the aforementioned topic [13:44] ktwilight: two is always nice, for backups. [13:45] PeterThoeny: summary: Sys admin done by 2-3 people, in Europe and USA [13:45] Lavr: The reason I suggest to install TWiki EXACTLY like described in the install doc is that then more sys admins can work on it. [13:45] PeterThoeny: coordinate in NewTWikiOrgServer2007 [13:45] PeterThoeny: good point kenneth, noted [13:45] gmc: Lavr: +1, and if not possible, document exactly where deviations are, but that falls under 'proper coordination' [13:45] gmc: ok next item [13:45] ktwilight: yup [13:45] gmc: ---+ 6. Press releases [13:45] gmc: NewTWikiOrgServer2007 [13:45] gmc: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiAdvocacy04x02 [13:46] gmc: (copypaste error, sorry) [13:46] PeterThoeny: kenneth: exactly same setup except for base URL (we can't change that) [13:46] rodbeckstrom: we could do a press release on the contest, BTW, perhaps after, although before is also possible to get more participation- not sure [13:46] rodbeckstrom: thoughts? [13:46] PeterThoeny: michael and i had a chat last week [13:47] gmc: press release on the contest sounds like a proper idea to me [13:47] gmc: (time check +48) [13:47] PeterThoeny: we are on top of press release [13:47] Kobby: Yes agree , separate press release for contest [13:47] rodbeckstrom: do you think we should do a press release announcing the contest, or afterwards with the results, or both? [13:47] gmc: rodbeckstrom: both [13:47] Kobby: Hmmnnn would say both [13:47] PeterThoeny: would like to get people involved in different language regions [13:48] PeterThoeny: so that the press release get translated and distributed EVERYWHERE :-) [13:48] gmc: PeterThoeny: i already sort of stepped in to go for the dutch sector [13:48] rodbeckstrom: also we could have a press release summarizing Rome TWiki Summit and announcing next February Summit [13:48] gmc: unless Arthur is on that already (he is the translator for Dutch isn't he?) [13:48] PeterThoeny: yes, those two items should be in the press release [13:48] rodbeckstrom: I like the multi-lingual idea. We can have Peter handle the Swiss German one :) [13:49] PeterThoeny: :-) [13:49] rodbeckstrom: that one can be yodeled from the mountains... [13:49] gmc: :)) [13:49] Kobby: German speaking Switzerland very important market for TWiki... ;) [13:49] gmc: okay, so we need to see if we can mobilise or army of translators [13:49] gmc: s/or/our/ [13:50] gmc: and most preferably have some press-dude in every country / language zone [13:50] rodbeckstrom: so here are individual press release candidates: 1) Rome Summit/Silicon Valley Summit announcement [13:50] rodbeckstrom: 2) YouTube TWiki contest announcement [13:51] rodbeckstrom: 3) TWiki 4.2 announcement [13:51] rodbeckstrom: 4) YouTube Twiki contest winners [13:51] rodbeckstrom: any other forseeable candidates? [13:51] gmc: 1 could go out quite soon [13:51] gmc: perhaps a road map press release after 4.2 is out.. [13:52] gmc: to announce what our goals are for 5.0 [13:52] gmc: (time check +52) [13:52] rodbeckstrom: yes, the community and world should care about how Rome will change the world... [13:52] Kobby: That sounds like a lot of press releases! (Not that I am complaining) [13:53] Kobby: But how about setting up a topic called ThePressRoom or something like that where we can index them all? [13:53] Kobby: Otherwise they'll sink in the Codev swamp [13:53] rodbeckstrom: Ubuntu does 2-3 press releases PER MONTH! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/pressreleasearchive [13:53] gmc: should we restrain ourselves in sending out press releases? Personally i think the more press releases the better.. it will retrigger those associative neural cells each time and keep it current [13:53] Kobby: Sorry - didn't mean to call it a swamp ;( [13:53] PeterThoeny: michael, good point, i can create the topics [13:53] rodbeckstrom: maybe it would be good to have a TWiki press release every month [13:54] gmc: our local chapter of the political party i'm active in does 1-2 press releases a week.. on a national level they do 3-4 a week [13:54] ktwilight: it kinda collide with the whole blog thing, doesn't it? [13:54] rodbeckstrom: I think this community always has a lot of important news to share [13:54] gmc: no, a press release is entirely different from a blog item [13:54] PeterThoeny: ktwilight: different audience [13:54] rodbeckstrom: Press Releases are usually a compliment to blogs [13:54] gmc: ok, let us summarize for the swake of time [13:54] ktwilight: hm [13:54] gmc: and define some a.i.'s [13:55] gmc: first off: we have 5 candidates for press releases.. [13:55] gmc: rome/sf summits, 4.2 release, youtube contest announce, youtube contest winners, roadmap/future [13:56] rodbeckstrom: sound's good to me [13:56] PeterThoeny: great discussions [13:56] gmc: those will be indexed in a central topic (Codev.TWikiAdvocacy or a descendant thereof) [13:56] PeterThoeny: i will summarize in TWikiAdvocacy04x02 [13:56] gmc: the intention is to have press-people in every language region / country [13:57] gmc: did i miss something? [13:57] PeterThoeny: that's it [13:57] gmc: ok, next item [13:57] PeterThoeny: we can go to the next item [13:57] gmc: ---+ 7. Usability [13:57] rodbeckstrom: or in other language: may we do our best to get the releases into all major languages [13:58] rodbeckstrom: perhaps by opening up the translation process online somehow with a listing, table or template:) [13:58] gmc: so, no Carlo online [13:58] gmc: he did write a blog post on usability though, starting a series of usablitiy tips [13:58] rodbeckstrom: usability- I would like to see us consider doing our best to improve the usability and when in doubt, simplify or give the user the option to simplify [13:59] rodbeckstrom: 1 minute to go [13:59] gmc: i'm not sure how this is marketing btw.. [13:59] PeterThoeny: a lot of work can be/needs to be done with usability [13:59] PeterThoeny: basically a mindset question [14:00] gmc: time check +60 [14:00] rodbeckstrom: it relates to marketing in that usability is how the product show itself to the world [14:00] PeterThoeny: ok, no action on this item this time [14:00] PeterThoeny: next item? [14:00] gmc: ---+ 8. Merchandising [14:00] rodbeckstrom: can we defer to a future call? merchandising too? [14:01] gmc: fine with me, i have no news on merchandising atm [14:01] rodbeckstrom: great, I think we are done with an excellent 2nd marketing call- thank you Koen [14:01] rodbeckstrom: thank you all! [14:01] PeterThoeny: thanks all, excellent meeting! and lots of energy in the community! :-) [14:01] gmc: reciprocated, thanks all for being present [14:01] rodbeckstrom: Sayonara :) (no- I am not doing the Japanese translation, but Peter may) [14:01] Kobby: Au revoir, tout le monde! [14:01] gmc: :) [14:01] Kobby: Not that I speak French... [14:01] gmc: ok next meeting in two weeks, same time same place [14:02] rodbeckstrom: Ciao [14:02] gmc: so that's 1st of october, 20:00 GMT, #twiki_marketing [14:02] PeterThoeny: bis bald! [14:02] gmc: tot later [14:02] gmc: and welterusten (good night :) [14:02] ktwilight: :)