Problem:
Currently press references on the web in the
TWiki:Main/TWikiAnnouncements
topic about TWiki are stored in a list. This does not allow sorting and dates are not kept for each article. Also a submission form should be used to capture all the necessary data for new submissions by users.
Solution:
Refactoring the page. However this won't happen overnight and the design must be solid before any changes are made. Workflow for new submissions must be approved.
Result:
A more up to date list for everyone's benefit and users can help maintain the list by submitting links they find.
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GrantBow - 15 Jan 2003
Anouncements is IMHO exactly kind of pages which should go to Main
zone 
(=web) after users are moved to User
zone. Possibly with form, to be able to classify and search easily.
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PeterMasiar - 16 Jan 2003
Umm, so what should we do now that Beijing is out the door: wait for a better
TWiki:Main/TWikiAnnouncements
structure before posting notices around the net? or post away and restructure after the fact?
I've already posted to
http://cmsinfo.org/
(a moderated site so it will be a day or so before it's published) and was about to update
http://freshmeat.net/projects/twiki/
when I found this topic. So I'm holding off on any further news passing for the moment.
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MattWilkie - 03 Feb 2003
Please wait for a few days, I am currently working on a press release. If all goes well we will get a testimonial by a major company which we can include in the press release.
And yes, the annoucement will be refactored so that we can spread the word in a unified way
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PeterThoeny - 04 Feb 2003
Refactoring is on the way. We have now two main entry points:
I like Grant's idea to organize the TWiki news so that we can sort and filter the content. How about a similar approach to the
TWikiInstallations directory? What we could capture, with example:
This table could be maintained by the
EditTablePlugin or with a SEARCH based on individual topics. Opinions?
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PeterThoeny - 23 Feb 2003
Can I help with some of the refactoring work?
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GrantBow - 24 Feb 2003
Yes, please! First, lets decide, which approach is better?
| Use EditTablePlugin |
SEARCH Based on Individual Topics |
Use NewsPlugin |
Simple |
More setup work |
Simple |
All in one topic |
Many topics |
All in one topic |
Not scalable (Plugin is slow for > 100 entries) |
Scalable |
More scalable (including the topic is fast) |
Quick action (no preview) |
Edit/Preview/Save cycle |
Edit/Preview/Save cycle |
No filtering possible |
Good filtering (like in TWikiInstallations) |
No filtering, but one can include many of them |
| others? |
others? |
others? |
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| Vote count: |
Vote count: |
Vote count: |
| 2 |
4 |
1 |
Let's vote. Increase above vote count by one. Once decided it's just mechanical work to implement it.
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PeterThoeny - 26 Feb 2003
I put my vote in for the single-topic approach simply because the other approach seems like overkill. Currently, there are 4 or 5 articles listed in
TWikiInTheNews. Using the EditTablePlugin approach would easily accommodate 10x that number and sorting would be adequate to select a sub-set someone might want to focus on. If someone wanted to provde a more indepth review of an article (which I imagine would be rare), that could link a separate topic off the listing in the table.
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LynnwoodBrown - 02 Mar 2003
I support Lynnwood's reasoning.
And anyway, TWiki's search is not
that scalable either...
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PeterKlausner - 08 May 2003
I would add a 3rd way, which brings power of use in an efficient way: put a special tag in a news announcement (or a webform item), that - via a plugin - would generate the sortable table
of announcements at save time (a kind of compilation) in a separate topic, that could be INCLUDEd in other topics. No runtine (view) overhead.
Actually, there is a 4th way: Just use the
NewsPlugin plugin. We use it a lot here at work, projects pages have thus boxes in a right column with news (project news + division news + company news...). See sample of use at
http://koala.ilog.fr/wiki/bin/view/Koala/WebHome
The "Koala News" box being "compiled" on save of the topic
http://koala.ilog.fr/wiki/bin/view/Koala/NewsAll
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ColasNahaboo - 09 May 2003
I just voted for a search. I'm getting back into the swing of things.
I was looking for a place to put this URL.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/19/technology/19NECO.html
Since it requires registration and may go away sometime, having it's own topic would be a benefit to use under the Copyright provisions for educational and personal use, I think. We do similar copying and pasting for the
BrainStorms community that Howard Rheingold hosts. There are lots of writers on there, so it seems this is a kosher way to share content.
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GrantBow - 20 May 2003
Added column for
NewsPlugin
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ColasNahaboo - 27 Oct 2003
Which could be the
TWikiNewsPortal
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PeterThoeny - 27 Oct 2003