Feedback on CaboteriaSkin

-- TobyCabot - 15 Feb 2003

Hi Toby, Thanks for posting this skin. Although I'm not using it, the clean feel of it gave me enough inspiration and energy to pursue the next round of development on SeeSkin. Thanks!

To anybody wondering what the difference is, the Tigris Style Project css which Caboteria is based on provides more support for making a web site look almost the same in legacy browsers (eg. Netscape 4). The approach I've taken is different - I don't care what it looks like in N4, only that all the functions and text are available.

-- MattWilkie - 21 Feb 2003

Matt, Thanks for setting up this page, and for the positive feedback. From my perspective the biggest benefit of using the Tigris sheets is that Todd Fahrner's CSS-fu is strong and mine is weak. I learned most of what I know just by reading their sheets. But you're right, you could build sheets that were a lot more streamlined by jettisoning NS4 compatibility (which I did anyway by using CSS positioning).

-- TobyCabot - 15 Feb 2003

The skin looks nice.

For what it's worth, using CSS positionioning does not automatically break NS4 compatibility. For the so inclined, NS4 does implement it - poorly, but those who need it can learn to live within its limitations. http://realworldstyle.com has a few stylesheet templates which are supposed to work with NS4 fairly well. (Still, I'm not suggesting you worry about NS4 - ugh!)

One observation of your skin: a quick glance at the source code for your site at http://www.caboteria.org reveals you are not using the same template you uploaded here. There are differences in the HEAD section for including the style sheets. Maybe the differences are inconsequential? I've uploaded a new revision that fixes the links - tc

-- TomKagan - 24 Feb 2003

TomWitt pointed out that I botched the links to the stylesheets, so I've uploaded an update.

-- TobyCabot - 26 Feb 2003

Nice skin. I use it on my site, but when I installed it I saw that the mail at the botton was webmaster@caboteria... and that the title of the web was "The Caboteria". In the line number 22 I put "<h1>%WEB%</h1>" and on the 51 something like "<a href="mailto:%WIKIWEBMASTER%">&lt;%WIKIWEBMASTER%&gt;</a>"

-- MatiasPalomec - 09 Aug 2003

Thanks for your suggestions, Matias! They definitely make the skin easier to install. I've uploaded a new zip than incorporates them, with one small difference. I used TWiki instead of Plugins for the h1 at the top of the page since I like that to be the site name (the current web is in the breadcrumbs).

-- TobyCabot - 31 Dec 2003

I hadn't upgrade the skin's view template to show a document's parent, but now I have.

-- TobyCabot - 06 Jan 2004

Toby, I did some formatting on the skin page. Basically, use %TWIKIWEB% instead of TWiki, and use Interwiki names since the mentioned users are probably not registered on the sites where the skin gets installed. Also, here is a brushed up screenshot that shows more details using a smaller font:

You can take those changes into the next release if you wish.

-- PeterThoeny - 04 Sep 2004

It looks like current .zip is without any templates?

-- SteffenPoulsen - 14 Apr 2007

New release that works with TWiki 4.3.2. Also fixes the problem noted above by SteffenPoulsen.

-- TobyCabot - 2009-12-14

Thank you Toby for updating the plugin! Please consider using SVN. More at ReadmeFirst and PluginsInSubversion.

-- PeterThoeny - 2009-12-14

I just upgraded my site to TWiki version 5 and this skin seems to work fine even though it was developed for TWiki version 4. I guess the skin API is pretty stable these days.

-- Toby Cabot - 2013-01-05

Yes, it is. Although you will not have the latest features, such as read-only skin mode.

-- Peter Thoeny - 2013-01-05