Minutes of WYSIWYG Editor Integration Meeting, 17 Sep 2007

TOC and Agenda

Logistics, Participants, IRC log

• Date: Monday, 17 Sep 2007 19:30 GMT
• IRC Channel: #twiki_editor
• Participants: (Put a smilie for those who participate)
  • ArthurClemens (ArthurClemens)
  • CarloSchulz (carlo)
  • ColasNahaboo (ColasNahaboo)
  • CrawfordCurrie (CDot)
  • DavidAllen (DavidAllen)
  • KennethLavrsen (Lavr)
  • KoenMartens (gmc)
  • KwangErnLiew (KwangErnLiew)
  • OliverKrueger (OliverKrueger)
  • PeterThoeny (PeterThoeny)
  • SteffenPoulsen (SteffenPoulsen)

Action Item Review

• Peter: Ask CheDong if he can help out on internationalization
  • see CheDong's note below
• Carlo, Crawford: One page help doc TinyMCEQuickHelp
  • draft done (by Kenneth) and included in the package

Status Update & Bug Review

• Heads-up Crawford has now used up all the client-funded hours that were enabling the rapid pace of improvements and bugfixes to WYSIWYG. Future fixes are likely to take significantly longer, as he has to focus on other client work.
• Pending requirements are:
  1. Test international character set support
  2. Internationalisation (plugging in alternative existing language packs to TinyMCE, based on setting of TWiki language)
  3. Minor feature enhancements
  4. Explore other plugins available from Sourceforge
  5. More testing!

Action Items

• Peter: Ask CheDong if he can help out on internationalization

IRC Log

• WysiwygEditorMeeting2007x09x17.txt: Editor Meeting 2007-09-17

Back to: WysiwygEditorMeeting

Comments / Feedback

Hi Peter: I'd like to help translate TinyMCE? and other new twiki language file into Chinese. Seem time is too late for me to join the irc. I'll check the meeting minute later.

Thanks

-- CheDong - 17 Sep 2007

Hi all. In looking at othr wikis using TMCE as their editor, I stumbled on one of the only thread on Confluence forum having the word WYSIWYG in it. It makes a very interesting read: http://forums.atlassian.com/thread.jspa?messageID=257252741 What we can see:

• they have the same problems as everybody
• TMCE issues seems added newlines & tables
• unreliability in the WYSIWYG can bring a very negative feeling towards a whole system

-- ColasNahaboo - 22 Sep 2007

Not good. And we will have similar usability issues, I expect; TMCE really isn;t very good on Safari, for example. However the investment required to fix these problems is significant, and until someone provides it - basically funds Moxicode, or someone else - to produce a better editor, we are stuck. MichelBuffa has some interesting findings with the DojoToolkit, but even there, it would take a week of solid effort just to determine if it can work with TWiki or not

-- CrawfordCurrie - 22 Sep 2007