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UnderscoreWikiWords proposes to use underscore ('_') to separate wikiwords as biggest and most popular wiki, http://www.wikipedia.org does. As fringe bemefits it will improve usability and google search smile

But what to do with markup for italics? Instead of _ foo_ I propose IMHO very intuitive solution: to wrap text into slashes: /foo/ . KwikiWiki uses it, and I just cannot help but foo inside slashes looks to me slanted to the side smile

-- PeterMasiar - 22 Oct 2003

Yea, the _italic_ rule is a JosWiki legacy thingy. Doing stuff /italic/ would be more intuitive. Two concerns:

  • Major: Handling of existing content
  • Minor: Side effects with technical text describing /path/to/dir/

-- PeterThoeny - 26 Oct 2003

UnderscoreWikiWords go well together with _ italics.

Different, not more intuitive per se. Don't confuse the way the expression looks by what it expresses. Applying "strong" to a word doesn't make you write it ssttrroonngg although that is what happens at system level. Instead we use strong because the asterisks give us the impression of emphasis.

Using underscores for emphasis ("<em>") makes the word stand out more. Using slashes perhaps a bit less so. Well, this is a bit of an academic discussion, and rooted in personal preferences. Underscores for italics is used more often when you look at mailing lists and weblogs. See also the Word dialog example in WikiML.

-- ArthurClemens - 26 Oct 2003

If I could have my "druthers", I'd rather have _underscore markup_ translate to underlined text, despite the obvious (partial) conflict with typical link rendering (but I could live with that). Then I'd like the /slash markup/ for italics.

-- RandyKramer - 26 Oct 2003

Conceptually / for italic makes sense but I personally don't find underscores a problem. Probably because I actually abhor underlined text, except when restricted to phrases of three words or less - using short words wink

Arthur can you expand on 'underscores as emphasis go well with UnderscoreWikiWords '? Don't they build an easy opportunity for unintended links to nonexistant topics?

-- MattWilkie - 27 Oct 2003

I just wanted to say they don't bite each other, except when you need an italic link. See http://www.visiblearea.com/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Sandbox/TestTopic1 for examples.

-- ArthurClemens - 27 Oct 2003

My 2¢:

  • don't change '_' for italic - in usenet and ASCII email this is well established; even MS Word supports this
  • besides KWiki I never saw '/' for italics; in the typewriter era it was a convention for bibliographic references
  • forget underlining text. A leftover from typewriters, where this was the only available typographic element. Bad enough, that it was chosen as default link style; Ok ok, at least it makes them unique.

-- PeterKlausner - 27 Oct 2003

Discussion on strike-through moved to StrikeThroughShortHand by MattWilkie - 27 Jan 2004

I definitely want to weigh in against /italics/ for the reason mentioned above w.r.t. paths. I run a wiki about Linux, and it's absolutely riddled with references to things like /home/ or /var/. If all of those started showing up in italics instead of with the actual slashes present it would be a real pain. Of course, if we decide to do this I'll just patch it away on my TWiki installation anyway. I think it's useful to have markup that rarely if ever needs to be escaped. This is especially true for the more technical wiki's like mine where various odd punctuation is frequently needed for actual use rather than as a formatting command.

-- WalterMundt - 27 Jan 2004

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